专访 Yard Act | 如何在大厂牌、高预算中维持独立音乐的根基

文摘   2024-11-11 08:00   上海  

首张专辑《The Overload》引起业界与乐迷的广泛关注,第二张专辑《Where's My Utopia?》继续开拓更为广阔的音乐版图,从独特而丰富的类型尝试到充满诙谐意味的本土文本,Yard Act 可以称为新一代英伦创作者里值得乐迷关注的一支乐队。而在今年冬季,这支乐队也将来到中国进行一轮巡演,赶在巡演之前 UPEE 有幸与 Yard Act 主唱 James Smith 进行了一期专访,分享他们在新作背后的创作、思考,以及对这一轮巡演的期待。


[Review] Where's My Utopia?





UPEE:从第一张专辑到《Where's My Utopia?》,你们的音乐中出现了很多跳舞感、放克感、嘻哈感的内容,你们和两位制作人 Remi Kabaka Jr. 以及 Ross Orton 的合作有怎样的感受?两位制作人分别关联着 Gorillaz、Arctic Monkeys,似乎也在《Where's My Utopia?》中与你们一同平衡相对而言“大体量”的制作,你们又会如何描述现阶段的 Yard Act?

Yard Act:能在音乐上奢侈地用上那么多预算,感觉真的很棒。我觉得作为一个艺术家,能够在任何激发创作的限制下发挥是很重要的。在我们过去的创作生涯中,我们的预算一直都相对较低,所以这次突然有机会与更大的制作人团队合作,还能请来弦乐组和合唱团等,对我们来说也是一种挑战——但我们还是坚定地抓住这样的机遇迎难而上。不过与此同时,很多时候我们还是坐在空余的房间里,用采样器和从慈善商店淘来的老旧唱片来制作beats,所以我觉得我们很好地将高保真和低保真结合在一起。这是我们的根基的缩影:寻找一些新苗头,并意识到一切皆有可能。

It felt great to push the boat out musically and play with a bigger budget. I think its important as an artist to work with whatever creative restrictions you're given as an artist. Up until this point in our creative lives, they had been relatively low budget so it was a bit of a "bull by the horns" moment for us that we all of a sudden had these opportunities at our finger tips to work with bigger producers and also bring in string sections and a choir etc. But in the same breath a lot of it was still us just sat in our spare bedrooms making beats with samplers and dirty old records we found in charity shops so I think we managed to marry the hi fi with the lo fi pretty well. It's a snapshot of our roots looking out on to the horizon and realizing anything is possible.



UPEE:从《The Overload》到《Where's My Utopia?》,你们为自己的音乐注入了很多新的内容,还有哪些、什么样的新元素是你们觉得在未来可以尝试的?对接下来的 Yard Act 有什么期待吗?
Yard Act:认为,你所做的下一件事往往是对已经尝试过的东西的回应,所以诙谐地来说,我想象中的下一张作品还是会把我们带回到原先没那么多繁杂设计、“极简化”的状态。不过我只是说说而已,可能结果并不是这样——无论最后是什么样的作品,都会以它应有的样子呈现出来。我觉得我们在“Where’s My Utopia?”里那些极夸张的表现是有些让我们情绪与想法倾泻而出了。现在我们有信心去"做得更多"。但我希望下一次我们有"做得更少"的信心。

I think the next thing you do is often a reaction to the previous thing you've done, so almost comically, I'm imagining the next thing will strip us right back down to our bare bones again. I could be wrong though, whatever comes out will come out as it is meant to. I think being so overblown with "wheres my utopia" got it out of our system a bit though. With that we had the confidence to do more. I hope next time we have the confidence to do less.


UPEE:前一张专辑你们还是相对而言精简的独立制作,而到《Where's My Utopia?》的发行,你们已经成为 Island Records 的一员。在“独立大厂牌”有给你们带来哪些不一样的体验?
Yard Act:这两张专辑都是通过 Island Records发行的。我们觉得这是一次非常愉快的经历。Island 的模式非常以艺术家为主导。大厂牌的预算很充足,只要他们愿意给,我们都很乐意充分利用这些预算。

Both albums were released through Island. We've found it to be a thoroughly enjoyable experience. It is very artist led. Major label budgets are great and we are happy to make the most of them for as long as they'll have us on the books.



UPEE:很多乐迷在听到《Where's My Utopia?》时,都有想到 Damon Albarn——不仅出于与 Remi Kabaka Jr. 的合作,还有一些来自 90 年代 Blur 的英伦气息——在《Where's My Utopia?》的制作过程中,有受到哪些英国音乐人的启迪吗?

Yard Act:Albarn体现了我对流行音乐的一切热爱。他的创造力持续不断,而且各种多样的载体与形式让人感到他的创意无限。Beck在我眼里也是如此。“Where's My Utopia?”受到了大量来自世界各地的影响,但我觉得这就是西方白人艺术家探索其他文化,并以爱与真诚将这些文化下的音乐融入自己作品的方式——这群人对我们的音乐创作有着显著重要的影响。这群人里我还要加上The Avalanches和Beastie Boys。

Albarn embodies everything I love about pop music. He is relentlessly creative and through multiple vehicles his ideas feel limitless. I would say the same for Beck. There was a lot of influence from all over the planet on WMU but I think it is how white western artists navigate other cultures and incorporate their music into their own with love and sincerity which means they loom largest in our approach. I would also add The Avalanches and the Beastie Boys to that world.


UPEE:The Overload》中带有黑色幽默感的文本在《Where's My Utopia?》延续,相较于 Blur 在 30 年前的表达,你们对于当下的英国生活又有怎样的理解,你们觉得你们在做的 Yard Act 式的“英伦音乐”是什么气质的?

Yard Act:英国社会仍然回荡着殖民主义的历史。作为这里的白人艺术家,我们的身份处境是矛盾的,因为不可否认,我们享受到了在一个富裕国家出生和成长的特权。然而,我们也生活在一个真正的多元文化社会,也大大受益于那些被带到我们这片土地上繁衍并发生转变的文化。我们在这些文化中目睹了贫困和种族主义,并与之共存。利用好我们的地位来赞扬和支持我们所热爱的英国,同时谴责其可憎的历史残遗,这一点对我们来说很重要。

British society continues to reverberate with our history of colonialism. It's a conflicting position to be in as white artist's here as we have undeniably benefitted from the privileges of being born and raised in a rich nation. However, we live in a genuinely multicultural society and we have also gained massively from the cultures that have been brought and grown and mutated on our shores. We see the poverty and the racism and live amongst it. It feels important to utilize our position to champion and stand for what we love about the UK whilst condemning the lingering smell of its abhorrent past.



UPEE:Yard Act 毫无疑问也是近年兴起的“Post-Brexit Post-punk-revival”浪潮的一员,但相比提到这一浪潮时常被提及的 Black Country,New Road、Black midi、Squid 都呈现出的繁化与严肃气质,你们的音乐不仅有《The Overload》中呈现的倾向于“极简化”的状态,还有维持两张专辑的的戏谑感。这一时代的后朋复兴似乎也带着 30 年前各路特色各异的音乐人都参与到 Britpop 运动的即视感,你们觉得你们在这一时代的后朋复兴场景中处在什么样的位置?

Yard Act:我认为这个时代的音乐确有一些不错的乐队,但很少有特别让我产生共鸣的。我们和他们一样,都在做自己的事,而时间会证明我们所有人都是如此。

I think there are some good bands from this era of music, but very few I feel any particular kinship with. We are doing our own thing, as are they, and time will prove that was the case all along, for all of us.


UPEE:而在此前提到的 Damon Albarn 与 Arctic Monkeys,在他们生涯的中后期都有不少“走出英国”的创作。作为来自中国的媒体,我们好奇有哪些亚洲音乐人你们喜欢,或者能给你们带来类似“或许我们可以在之后带来这样的创作”的启迪的?

Yard Act:我非常喜欢香港的工工工乐队(Gong Gong Gong),喜欢南韩的 balming tiger 和 leenalchi。在泰国,还有一个叫 Soft Pine 的独立乐队,我觉得他们非常酷;在制作《Where's My Utopia?》的过程中,日本电子乐队Yellow Magic Orchestra和坂本龙一也是启发我们的来源之一。

From Hong Kong I really like Gong Gong Gong, and from south Korea I like balming tiger and leenalchi. In Thailand there is an indie band called Soft Pine i think are really cool, and during the making of WMU Japan's Yellow Magic Orchestra and Ryuichi Sakamoto were often referenced.



UPEE:这次是 Yard Act 第一次来到中国巡演,你们对中国有哪些期待?比如想去的城市,想品尝的食物,等体验?

Yard Act:我们非常期待拜访中国。我最近读了徐则臣写的《北京西郊故事集》。书中有很多关于在驴肉火烧馆子里消磨时光的描写,我很期待能从那里开始探索中国!

We are super excited to visit China. I recently read the book 'Beijing sprawl' by Xu Zechen. A lot is written about hanging out in a Donkey Burger Cafe so I'm looking forward to that for starters!



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