2022 THE 5TH ESSEC SINO-FRANCE BUSINESS FORUM REVIEW

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ESSEC 5th Sino-France

Business Forum


 Forum Flashback




On November 18th, 2022, after three years of postponement due to the pandemic, we welcomed the 5th Sino-France Business Forum, hosted by ESSEC Chine in collaboration with ESSEC Alumni. The forum was held both online and offline simultaneously at ESSEC La Defense campus in Paris, Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen with great success. This time, we had a record-breaking number of more than 450 registered participants to the forum globally. 


Focusing on the theme of "Post-Pandemic Business between China and France", the forum invited eleven companies from four major sectors: finance, investment, technology, and digital retail, to share exciting insights. The audience actively participated and had in-depth discussions with our guests on current challenges and future prospects of the various industries. 


Finally, the conference ended on a high note with exquisite French pastries and cocktails. Read on and check out what was shared during the forum!


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Speech




André CHIENG (Beijing) 

Comité France-Chine

Vice-President

Challenges and opportunities for European companies in China after the 20th Congress




  • Andre said in his speech that China wants to become a well-functioning socialist country. And in the current situation, China needs the world, and the world needs China.

  • Even if China is a strategic competitor, as the EU mentions, China has never been a military threat to Europe, as reminded President Macron. Decoupling from China is impossible in the next future.

  • We must realize that despite all negative comments on China and its demographic and economic challenges, the Chinese economy is still number 2 in the world and continues to grow. For many products, China is the world's number one or two market. China has become the world leader in many fields, especially in climate change: solar panels, wind power, car batteries, etc.

  • The crisis in China will eliminate companies not adapted to the current time, but the ones that survive will be stronger.


  • China must improve its soft power, attract new people after the covid crisis, and encourage entrepreneurs.





Weiming CAO (Shanghai) (O90) 

Hermès

Greater China President 

A fresh and positive outlook on China luxury market



  • Weiming shares that China is facing very complex and difficult situations (e.g. lock down), but luxury markets remain resilient.


  • There is a good upward trend. Innovation and sales are increasing, and consumption is expected to rise in the following years. There is also a significant rise in sales online as well as in brick-and-mortar stores. China is the key engine for the actual consumption worldwide and Chinese consumption is back.


  • Covid has certainly affected the sector. Communication with headquarters became more complicated and challenging (e.g. most communications are through online meetings), leading to gaps in understanding. New management methods are required to operate during these times, for example, logistical changes and improvement in communication channels can help firms to adapt better and faster.

  • Challenges and difficulties will make firms more resilient, more creative, and stronger.

  




Edouard Moinet

Cathay Capital, 

Co-Founder and Managing Partner 

Cross-border investment trends and opportunities in complex environments


How Cathay Capital navigates in a very tough environment over the past three years:


  • First of all, it has been awful because of an investment decrease in China since a year ago. The company went through the past three years with its portfolio, and different waves of confinement have affected the portfolio. However, results of +15% of assets under management, were still acheived in 2020.

  • The company has focused on the healthcare, consumer goods and fintech sectors for over a decade. These are fundamental industries that can tide through a crisis. For example, healthcare is the only industry not to be confined, and consumer goods industry also survives, especially in China, where E-commerce is skyrocketing.

  • And they focused on "hot sectors" benefiting from strong underlying demographic/ economic/ political trends in China, such as healthcare and wellness, digitalization of consumption, energy transition, and carbon reduction.

  • Their geographical strategy also helped them a lot because the different waves of confinement were not at the same time or space.

  • The company strongly believes that China is the right place to be and a great place to invest.

Q1: In your company, how do you help smaller companies enter the China market?


The pandemic has decoupled the two continents somewhat. Also, the national pride of the new generation of Chinese consumers makes them more inclined to consume Chinese brands, so Cathay Capital would rather invest in local Chinese digital brands for now. 


But at the same time, the company is trying to help French perfume companies to execute digital strategies and sell on Chinese E-commerce platforms.


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Q2: With the current global situation, many French investors are only focusing on projects that are profitable - is this the same situation for Cathay Capital's portfolio? What about your cross-border investments in China?


The company's business model provides a cross-border bridge. Our choice when targeting Cathay investments is to invest in European companies, but they can deploy this capital in China and have access to Chinese VCs.

Q3: What are the special areas in Europe that are different from China and Silicon Valley that deserve the attention of early investors? 


Fintech and digital healthcare. Mr. Moinet believes that digital healthcare will face huge challenges and windows in the next decade, and finding the right assets in these two spaces is also his daily job.

Q4: How do you see Chinese entrepreneurs in Europe and what is their profile? If you were to choose one of the most representative Chinese entrepreneurs and Chinese investment companies in Europe, who would they be?


Mr. Moinet chose his co-founder (Ming-Po CAI). He thinks he has great energy, drive and intuition. The PE and VC industry is about finding the right balance between intuition and deep dive, and deep analysis.

Q5: The issue of climate change offers new perspectives for the development of French and Chinese companies, does your company have any investment activity in this area?


Mr. Moinet indicates that they have two dedicated China funds, one for energy and one for car-tech (autonomous electric vehicles), and are focused on both areas.




JIE WANG (Shanghai) (E14)

Boston Consulting Group 

Partner

China: New Era, New Journey


We are seeing on a global scale that many things are changing, such as localized supply chain and geopolitics tension. For many multinationals, this is called either localize or go home. We've also seen quite a lot of refloating on the capital side. And of course, the rising prices of energy and commodities.


In China, we are seeing the lost middle class. You either go very premium, or you go very cheap in a way. The country is putting more resources into the real economy and consumption. And many graduates are going back to their hometowns after their education. 

 

How do you actually grow your business now in China if you are a consumer brand? 


In China, a good CEO is first a good demographic expert because the population is going through structural change every five years. 

 

  1. Young families with children are decreasing significantly in the higher-tier cities due to the younger generation's unwillingness to have kids.

  2. There are more and more people in their mid-forties who have made enough money to retire, and they have a lot of resources and money to spend;

  3. More people are actuallygoing back to their hometown, so we have more and more“小镇青年” (younger people choosing to live in the suburban cities) than higher-tier city familiesnowadays.


Let’s look at the different income classes. The typical shape of the population is changing drastically. The normal shape is a triangle or pyramid. It will be an inverted pyramid in the next 5 to 10 years. We are going to have a very big group of upper middle class, affluent people.

 

Speaking of the decline in the economy in China, the problem was COVID. However, it is an excellent opportunity for top brands to improve and capture older consumers who have gone through a very difficult life and haveendured a very difficult life and accumulated a large amount of resources and capital. These consumers are looking for brands that they can enjoy and 'pay back' their difficult life.

 

We're seeing a huge change in terms of how Chinese consumers perceive brands. A brand must tell more stories to match what the consumer wants. The latter is looking for much more, whether the value that the brand is pursuing is actually resonating with bigger themes and trends, for example, sustainability. 


Many Chinese homegrown brands have started to become Chinese luxury brands, which is what Western brands, especially French ones, have been doing. China and the West are converging by getting into the essence of what a consumer product is about: having a good product with a good value proposition for consumers. 


And the fact that many Chinese brands are internationalizing their business is not a way of taking shares but a way to make the coupling happen, to find more commonalities between China and the West.





Panel




Investment and Technology Panel


Puyu LI (Beijing) (E00)  

Sinovation Ventures, CFO 

Hugo DINH 

NaoX Technologies, CEO 

Shuyang CAO (Shanghai) (M10)

Fresh capital, Partner 

Jeremie NI (E90)

ChinForm, Managing Director France & China 

There is an increase in the development of AI, 5G and new technologies. Could you tell us in which sectors today the Chinese entrepreneur investors are more interested?


Puyu LI:

The last 20 years have been the era of Internet and mobile, and we have seen a lot of success stories of Chinese companies becoming giants.


Nowadays, it is super interesting that there is a gravity shift in the Internet sector. Over the last 20 years, all human behaviors on the Internet have been somehow digitized, so this is a huge amount of data. To continue to innovate, China must invest in their own talent, get the best of the Chinese engineers and even attract talent from abroad to build up this ecosystem around deep tech.


The government encourages loans and grants for research technologies from laboratories in China to bring their innovation and new technologies to the market. All of this creates a catalyst for growth in Chinese future technology field.



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Are Chinese companies trying to raise funds to deepen research development or go abroad?


Shuyang CAO:

Both. We are looking at many new cutting-edge technologies in these fields that could further improve energy production efficiency.


At the same time, as Chinese companies are leading, many products in this field are imported from China to European and American companies.We have also seen many Chinese companies going abroad quite successfully and have a very good market share abroad.

Your idea is to combine tech and health, how does that happen? How do you find an idea for a startup?


Hugo DINH: 

To find an idea for a startup, what I have learned from my experience is that you have to share to find people who can help you build together. 


In my case, my grandma died from Alzheimer's disease a few years ago. I went to see my teacher and asked him: “Why is this kind of disease still very hard to diagnose at an early stage”. He told me that it's very important to collect data from patients outside the hospitals and then to have good data quality.


That's why with this sharing, I have these ideas to bring out a measurement of the brain outside the hospitals, and we launched NaoX Technologies together in 2018.



Your company is very famous in China and all over the world. Does your company have a strong ambition for international development? How do you see international development?


Puyu LI:

We are a major company, so we are investing our funds to focus on China, but a small portion of the fund is put into international investments.


One main challenge is the shortage of chips. Suppliers are more reluctant to provide chips, because the demand is much higher than the supply. It's the supplier who has the last word. And they need to be compliant; otherwise, they might be blacklisted by the US companies, but this is also an opportunity for tech self-sufficiency in China. It will be achieved. You can always trust Chinese entrepreneurs and talents to overcome all the difficulties, so it's just a matter of time.


In the long term, there will be more entrepreneurs, economic growth, and capital opportunities with firms aiming to go global.







Digital Commerce Panel


Xiaoyan CHEN (M15)

Rougelink, CO-Founder

Cyril DROUIN (Online)

Publicis commerce, Former CO-CEO 

Sandrine ZERBIB

Full Jet, Founder & Chairwoman 

Harris KYRIAKOU

ESSEC Business School, Chaired Professor of Media & Digital 

Inisights on Double 11:


Xiaoyan CHEN:

Her recap for the double 11 this year is that the figure in the market is quite promising, in the sense that the GMV (Gross Merchandise Volume) increase is about 13%. The market is still resilient. Chinese are consuming despite the sluggish economic situation. China is booming, and the purchasing and consuming appetite are there.


The reason why Alibaba and jd.com are silent in the market, there are two parts: Firstly, there are some political issues with Jack MA and live streamers like Jiaqi LI. Secondly, we can see a real challenge in terms of competitors such as Douyin, which has developed its E-commerce business. This year all the new platforms, including Douyin have delivered over 140% of growth. We see that there is a shift in E-commerce. And do not worry about the silence, because inside the silence, there is a dynamic transformation.




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Inisights on Double 11:


Sandrine ZERBIB:

Double 11 is a very good moment to observe certain trends. For example, the trend of the rise of short videos.


Another trend is farmers' sustainability, which is an entirely different trend. So it's fascinating to observe that this is what people are also interested in. 


Through double 11 we can observe which segments are winning segments. Sometimes you see confirmation of what's going to be blooming in the coming months and years.



Inisights on Double 11:


Cyril DROUIN:

Things did slow down, especially on the FMCG side; There is a drop in consumption, specifically in  the beauty and F&B segments. 

 

O2O has actually been booming a lot during this year's double 11. Jingdong Daojia (京东到家) grew by more than three digits.


This year we didn't have a big influencer for livestream on Tmall like Jiaqi LI. It was a missing part of the festival, but frominthe last two years, a lot of brands arehave beendiversifying their channels to other e-commerce platforms. 



Please find more discussion topics in the complete forum notes in "Read More" (阅读原文)

  • The main differences between the Chinese & European markets onindigital commerce?

  • Where do you think the opportunities lie for both Chinese-based and also European-based companies given the current environment?

  • What can we learn for the future? Is there a convergence in the future?



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