这才是真正的人

文摘   2024-11-04 23:58   中国香港  


Matthias是椰酥的弟子

十二使徒之一

他象征性地代表着一个年轻的天使

标志着椰酥基督人性的一面

在椰酥所有的弟子中

他是最人性化的一个

一旦你开始对神感兴趣

你会越来越超越人性

这是自然而然的

你开始超越、胜出人性的部分

Matthias一直保持是一个人

使他成为椰酥人性部分的代表

所有十二个弟子均代表着不同的面向

那是椰酥的十二个侧面

没有人能代表完整的椰酥

他是如此地辽阔

但每一个弟子至少可以代表他一个侧面

Matthias代表他人性的一面

那是非常具有象征意义的

因为在东方,人们认为

佛陀是超越人性的最佳代表

我们写的关于佛陀的所有故事

都不约而同地拿走了他人性的一面

那是一个障碍

他是不可思不可议的

看起来更像一个迷思而不是实际的存在

克里希那、马哈维亚也是一样

人性的一切都得拿掉

并不是说他们不是人

他们是人,完完全全的人

但那个“神化之人”的想法必须得超越人性

比如

传说中马哈维亚不出汗

因为那样太人性化了

试想一下,在印度不出汗······

而那是超人的标志!

在印度,分分钟让你体验什么叫大汗淋漓

他又生活在最热的地方——比哈

他裸身生活

光着脚走在泥泞的路上

天一晴就尘土飞扬

故事却说他从来不出汗

从来不排便

这些人类的事都太人类了!

马哈维亚的弟子无法想象他撒尿的样子

那似乎看低马哈维亚了,太小看他了

他可是神!

你以为他会一直坐在那深度静心

那是他唯一的举动

这么说椰酥更像一个人

他享受大吃二喝

和别人打成一片

讲段子,哈哈大笑

他喜欢和伙伴们在一起

各种小伙伴——赌徒、酒鬼、妓女

这才是真正的人!

而Matthias就是他所有弟子中最人性化的一个

他代表了椰酥人性化的一面

我在这里的努力

就是使宗教尽可能地人性

它不该是虚无飘渺的

必须让它接地气

我允许我的桑雅士出汗

这没什么不对

不会犯罪

洗桑拿也很高尚

尽情地出汗,想出多少出多少

记住,宗教不该不接地气

它必须扎根大地

只有这样才能保持生机和活力

如果它像云一样虚幻,没有根基

失去绿色就失去了活力

那就变成了抽象哲学

那就是发生在东方的事

因此耆那教徒无法相信椰酥

佛教徒也无法相信椰酥

因为他太人性化了

但我完全赞成椰酥

就是因为他的人性化!

我们想要的是人的宗教

人当然不该止步于人性

人应该超越人性

行至人性之上

但仍然要扎根大地


Matthias was one of the disciples of Jesus

One of the twelve apostles.

He is symbolically represented by a young angel

To signify Jesus Christ's humanity.

He was the most human disciple

Out of all the disciples of Jesus.

Once you become interested in god

You start becoming more and more super-human.

It happens naturally:

You start transcending humanity

You start surpassing humanity.

Matthias remained utterly a human being

And became a representative of Jesus' humanity.

All the twelve disciples represent something.

They are twelve aspects of Jesus.

Nobody represents Jesus in his wholeness

He is so vast

But each disciple can represent him at least

In a single aspect.

Matthias represents his humanity

And that is of great significance

Because in the East

Buddha is thought to be absolutely super-human.

All the stories that we have written about Buddha

Have taken away everything human from him.

He is just an abstraction

He is almost intangible.

He looks more like a myth than like a reality.

And so is the case with Krishna and Mahavira:

Everything human has been taken away.

It is not that they were not human,

They were human, very human,

But the idea was that a man of god

Has to go beyond humanity.

For example

Mahavira is said not to have perspired

Because that is too human.

Now, in India not to perspire...

It is a super-human feat!

It is easier to walk on water

Than not to perspire in India!

And he lived in the hottest part of the country,

In Bihar, and he lived naked

And he walked bare-footed on muddy paths

In dirt and dust and in the burning sun.

But the stories say that he never perspired

Never urinated, never defecated.

These are human things too human!

The followers of Mahavira, cannot conceive

Him urinating.

That looks below Mahavira, too below:

He is a god!

You can always think of him sitting

In deep meditation.

That's the only activity left for him.

In that way Jesus is far more human.

He enjoys eating and drinking

And mixing with people and laughing and joking.

He enjoyed company, and the company of all kinds

Of people -- gamblers, drunkards, prostitutes.

He is really human!

And Matthias is the most human of all

His disciples, he represents his humanity.

My effort here

Is to make religion as human as possible.

It should not be airy-fairy!

We have to bring it down to earth.

And I allow my sannyasins to perspire!

There is nothing wrong in it, no sin is committed.

Even a sauna bath is perfectly virtuous!

Perspire as much as you can.

Remember that religion has not to be unearthly.

It has to be rooted in the earth

Only then is it alive.

When it becomes too cloudy, uprooted

It looses all greenness, it looses all aliveness.

It becomes just an abstract philosophy.

That's what has happened in the East.

Hence Jainas cannot believe in Jesus,

Neither can Buddhists believe in Jesus

Because he is too human.

But I am all for Jesus

Simply because he is so human!

We want a religion which is human.

Of course one has not to end with humanity

One has to go beyond it, one has to transcend it

But one should remain rooted.

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